No box i buy better shoe and pay more for them. i clean them by hand and inspect and replace bad insoles and laces. i ship next day. i am not amazon and have to maintain price to assure i have nice new items to list daily. i hate watchers...make an offer as im a little flexable and will group ship up to 5 pair for shipping savings...and by the way dont ask for discounts on my items to cover your shipping cost. i give a 20% discount on my shipping. get mad at usps not me....i dont make the prices